Trumpists = Clintonistas

The critics use terms such as “demagogic ideologue” with “no specific policy proposals”, while the cheerleaders say things like “savior of the country” and “America’s best hope”.

Name that candidate.

trump clinton

Yes, that’s right. As painful as it is to write, and maybe even more painful to read, I’ve come to the conclusion that all the rabid hysteria in support of Donald Trump reminds me of nothing so much as the same kind of rabid hysterical support Clinton gets from those on the Left.

In both cases, their supporters have to convince themselves that their candidate’s history is irrelevant. In Clinton’s case, a boatload of scandals, improprieties, and corruption. In Trump’s case a checkered past of being literally all over the map on the political issues, being a big monetary supporter of the “other” party, being a member of several parties other than the GOP, and always serving his own self-interest first and foremost, before any other consideration (in that respect being very Clintonian).

A couple of weeks ago I wrote my first essay on the Trump phenomenon, and I have to say that I was very surprised by the pushback I got from several fellow bloggers and web-friends whom I normally consider to be very reliable conservatives. In that essay, and the one I wrote on the night of the first GOP debate, I pointed out many of Trump’s flaws as a candidate, including his many character failings. Yet many of these people, whom I generally consider to be very level-headed, were willing to simply ignore all of this because they’d either fallen under his spell, or convinced themselves that his basic character – his nature – didn’t matter in this instance.

I remember the 1996 election cycle in which Bill Clinton ran for a second term, and how that was the first time in the modern political era that “character” became a notable issue. Since that time, it’s one the GOP and conservatives raise regularly in criticizing their opponents, but somehow, this time, in the case of Trump they’re more than willing to ignore that very same quality when the question is directed at Trump, while at the same time using it to disparage Hillary Clinton.

What is one to make of this… inconsistency?

Here’s my assessment of their characters: both are egotistical megalomaniacs with a strong sense of entitlement; both are populist ideologues – he allegedly on the Right, she clearly on the Left – who are long on populist rhetoric and short on policy specifics; both have histories of political expediency to advance their own self-interests; both have improperly exercised their personal power, at the clear expense of others and with utter disregard for the consequences to others, merely to further their personal positions and ambitions; both are cynical manipulators; both have flip-flopped on their professed positions on policy issues; and neither one is trustworthy.

According to reliable polling data (Quinnipiac) each of them enjoys broad support from their respective ends of the political spectrum, but that support is undermined by their low ratings for honesty, likeability, and trustworthiness. In other words, a mile wide and an inch deep.

Trump is the Right’s Hillary.

That’s my assessment of their characters; my opinion. Now, if you’re a Trump supporter, look deeply into your own heart of hearts, and ask yourself these questions: Am I wrong? Do you trust Trump? Is he someone you’d have over to your home for dinner? And if the answers to those questions are “No”, then how are you any different from a Clintonista?

If next November’s election night rolls around and we’re looking at a picture like the one at the top of this essay, this country is well and truly screwed.

©Brian Baker 2015


(Also published today at my local newspaper, The Signal:


24 comments on “Trumpists = Clintonistas

  1. Crawfish says:

    They also remind me a LOT of the Ron Paul fanatics. HE is the ONLY one who can fix America! Any FACTS that are brought up in opposition to their candidate are eeeeevillll lies of the corporatists, the media, the Bilderbergs, the Rothchilds, the Bushs, the Zionists, the…….. There is no reasoning with them.
    The Perot supporters weren’t this delusional.

    • BrianR says:

      LOL, Craw!

      I had the exact same thought, though I didn’t want to include it because I didn’t want to cloud any discussion with what many would consider to be an outright insult.

      But I think it’s kind of symbolized by how much, and how many people, are all of a sudden hating Fox News. Fox was the only “good” news source, until all of a sudden they weren’t because they rained all over Trump’s parade.

  2. captbogus2 says:

    I still believe the Trump mania is not so much for Trump the candidate but because Trump seems to be the ONLY candidate that directly addresses the issues most bothersome to the middle American.
    What is even more maddening is the fact that there are at least 15 other GOP candidates who cannot understand the cause of Trump’s popularity and instead of recognizing the people’s desire for illegal immigration, government corruption and a pansy assed military attitude towards sworn enimies, among other gripes, instead of seeing this is what keeps The Donald in front of the people and high in the polls, they, en banc go on the attack…on Trump.
    When we get a candidate who will go after the illegal problem instead of attacking Trump; who will go after the socialized medicine problem instead of talking about “replacing” Obamacare; when we get a candidate who not only will call an islamic terrorist an islamic terrorist, then you will see Trump’s numbers in decline. So long as the GOP field is more concerned in cutting down Trump than fixing the problems Trump illuminates, then Trump will remain on top.
    Besides Senator Cruz, show me one GOP politician who is not in the pocket(s) of the DC buttonholers….
    And Senator Cruz has not yet come on strong.

    • BrianR says:

      Buck, that’s the very definition of “populist demagogue”. A guy who’ll say anything, whether or not he actually believes it himself, just to get votes or attention.

      And how did I close my first essay on this topic? By saying that the GOP has brought this upon themselves.

      As to Trump “staying on top”: ain’t gonna happen, pard. His numbers are already falling, and his polling data shows his alleged “support” being about as deep as a Mojave Desert lake.

      We’ve been down this road before with other candidates in the past: Giuliani. Christie (whom everyone was supposedly in love with a couple years ago for being another “straight talker”). Rubio (before he became the face of amnesty). Perot (who ended up throwing the election to Clinton). “Maverick” McCain (who was so bad we ended up with Obozo as President).

      That what you want?

      • captbogus2 says:

        I don’t see any of those suggested characters as being Trump-lite. NONE of them addressed the issues head on.
        That’s what the people want…

      • BrianR says:

        Of course they did. You probably just didn’t agree with the positions they took.

  3. Hardnox says:

    Trump’s popularity is due only to the GOP’s inability or unwillingness to provide leadership. The GOPe has pissed all over Middle America for decades and voters are tired of it.

    As Buck opined, IF the others begin to focus on the real issues then and only then will Trump’s popularity fade.

    What is plainly obvious is that Americans appreciate a plain speaker. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Fiorina are such examples.

    • BrianR says:

      “Trump’s popularity is due only to the GOP’s inability or unwillingness to provide leadership. The GOPe has pissed all over Middle America for decades and voters are tired of it.”

      As I’ve said repeatedly, including in my own first essay on the topic.

      “What is plainly obvious is that Americans appreciate a plain speaker.”

      There’s a monumental difference between a “plain speaker” and a horse’s ass who couldn’t care less about actual principles, and is simply using the election process to further his own publicity as a celebrity. He’s using you guys, and you don’t even see it. Hence today’s essay.

      If I thought FOR ONE SECOND that there was any sincerity, legitimacy or genuineness to what he’s spouting, I might be right there with you. There isn’t; just look at his own record.

      • Hardnox says:

        I’m not suggesting that Trump is sincere. I’m only saying that the weak leadership of the establishment GOP has allowed a man like Trump to resonate with Americans. IF the GOP actually stood for American values Trump would be invisible.

        One needs only to read the GOP platform to realize they don’t stand for any of it.

        People are tired of the bullshit. That’s all I’m saying.

        My hope is that Trump will eventually step out and lend his support to Cruz.

      • BrianR says:

        Well, Nox, I agree with that. Again, I said the same thing myself in my first essay on the subject. But that doesn’t make him any less of a sideshow and distraction.

        The danger with egomaniacs — and I can clearly see it in Trump — is that when they don’t get their way they don’t just step aside gracefully. They act like spoiled brats and wreck everything in sight.

        There are a couple of ACTUAL conservatives in the running; legitimate guys. Cruz. Walker. Jindal. If Trump wasn’t turning this whole primary into another episode of The Apprentice, we’d actually be talking about THEM, and what THEY have to offer; legitimate candidates who could actually get elected and would carry out their policies.

  4. Née says:

    Look, for those of you still touting Trump…he can’t possibly be the nominee–as much as Bernie Sanders appears to be for the “little people” the right and left don’t want either. Trump still lacks an end goal plan as does Sanders. They are telling you what you want to hear, but they aren’t going to get there.
    Hillary by all logic should implode…and as Brian stated…it appears what you do before doesn’t matter, and it should! Fiorina a and Trump are both leftminded if you strip it all away. Sanders might really be a soft socialist with traditional liberal thoughts but the left wants to keep the power and big business in the hole. They are going to find a way to eat Bernie alive…who will be left? Someone to stand by like BHO that will be his puppet….any takers? Yeah. Not much to choose from. But I know it won’t be the Donald.

    • BrianR says:

      Great stuff, Nee. Thanks for wading in.

      Man! This REALLY reminds me of the Crispie days back at TH in 2007 and 2008. I thought we were past all that!

  5. clyde says:

    Good essay. Different election cycle, same shit. “If YOU don’t support MY guy, you ain’t shit”. SIGH. Viva la Crispies.

  6. captbogus2 says:

    “Deja vu all over again.” That was that Dodger’s quote, right? What was his name?

    • BrianR says:

      I’m pretty sure it was Yogi Berra. He said all kinds of really cool things.

      • captbogus2 says:

        Yep. Name was on tip of tongue… JUst couldn’t get it past the teeth….

      • BrianR says:

        Yeah, I know what you mean. I’ve found the same thing happening more and more as I get older. Getting older ain’t for the weak!

  7. gunnyginalaska says:

    We may not like Trump but what he is saying is registering with the masses. Build a wall. Make Mexico pay for it. Deport the illegals. All good stuff. I’m digging what he is saying but I expect, in the end, to be supporting Cruz/Fiorina.

    • BrianR says:

      Gunny, here’s the problem. All that does is highlight exactly how ridiculous his “campaign” really is, and how it’s not based in reality but in just utter nonsense.

      “Deport the illegals”? Sounds really great, but exactly HOW is he going to deport somewhere between 12 and 20 MILLION people? It’s just an absolutely idiotic idea.

      “Build a wall. Make Mexico pay for it.” How? What happens when Mexico tells him to shove it where the sun don’t shine? Then what?

      The guy just spouts these loony sound bites because he knows it’s just nothing but red meat, that’s all. Again doing EXACTLY what I’ve accused him of: being a cheap blowhard populist.

      • captbogus2 says:

        I’ll tell you how to deport the illegals. Dry up the job sources and jobs and they will self deport. I believe there is already a law on the books to fine employers of illegals. Use it and make the fine frikkin’ hurt.
        The only hold up on that is ALL the politicians are beholden to the employers of illegals….. Except Trump, maybe….

      • BrianR says:

        Sure, Buck, that’s a legitimate strategy that conservative politicians have been discussing for decades. In fact, the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty that Reagan signed into law included the employer verification mandate based on that very idea.

        But that’s NOT what Trump’s bleating. He’s saying that HE will DEPORT all the illegal aliens. Which brings me back to my basic premise that he’s a blowhard populist who’ll say or do anything for his own publicity, no matter how ridiculous it is as an implementable policy.

        In plain English, he’s full of bull.

  8. Nee says:

    Bwahahahaha…wouldn’t I love it if he COULD deport all illegals. Ending the birthright to citizenship will surely quell the border jumpers, now, wouldn’t it? Again, he’s saying the hard stuff, but I don’t know who has the cajones to pick it up and run to make it stick.
    OTOH we have HRC.
    Dear Hilz: We know you lied and no matter how many disappearing jokes you make, you should not be above the law. I for one, am over it, over it, over it. #godirectlytojail #donotpasstheclintonfoundation #takeyourassholeswithyou ##Lerner ##BHO ##Koskinen ##Holder ##Emanuel ##Reid

    • BrianR says:

      The problem, Nee, is that there’s no way for him to carry out his absurd promises. He may as well be promising everyone that sunshine and rainbows will be coming out of their butts.

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