Lemme Have A Thin Crust Cheese And Pepperoni, With Extra Hypocrisy And Mendacity, Please

pizzaAssuming you haven’t been marooned on a deserted island in the middle of the ocean, you’ve probably heard about Memories Pizza, a small family-owned pizzeria in Walkerton, Indiana. 

When asked whether they’d cater a same-sex “wedding”, the father-daughter duo who own and operate the small pizza joint said that though they serve anyone who walks in their door, they’d have to decline to actually participate (by catering and actually being there) in such an event due to their Christian religious tenets. 

Needless to say, the LGBT community and their lefty supporters immediately launched into frenzied hair-on-fire mode. 

In all the hoopla that’s been published since, there’s one key point I’ve curiously never seen mentioned. 

If you’ll recall, when the Proposition 8 controversy was swirling here in Loonyfornia, the one thing we were constantly told was that the authorizing of same-sex “marriages” wasn’t going to affect anyone else, outside of giving “loving couples” of the same sex the ability to have “marriage” ceremonies. If you weren’t gay yourself, there was no way it was going to affect you in any way. 

It sure didn’t take long for that lie to be exposed, did it?

The reality is that businesses have all kinds of rules, which are normally just taken for granted. There are dress codes, for example. The most common: “No shirt, No shoes, No service”. We’ve all seen that one. Some restaurants require men to wear ties or business attire, or have other requirements as to the minimum acceptable standard of dress, such as banning blue jeans, tank tops, shorts and/or flip-flops. Isn’t that “discrimination” against people who can’t afford better clothes?

SF nudists

Not wearing jeans, shorts, tank tops or flip-flops. Following the rules?

What about those nudist fanatics in San Francisco and Portland, Oregon who insist they have a “right” to ingloriously flaunt their sagging skin in all its infamous glory whenever and wherever they want? Aren’t their “rights” being violated?

Further, these cases – Memories Pizza as well as photographers and other service providers suffering the same persecution – are based on the outrageous and repugnant idea that just because one makes their service available means that somehow their provision of that service becomes mandatory regardless of the provider’s own wishes in the matter as to their participation. Isn’t that actually a form of slavery?

Let’s take a couple of hypotheticals to illustrate. Let’s say I’m a caterer who’s also a member of AA. A potential customer wants me to cater a bachelor party and he makes it clear that it’s going to be a drunkathon with everybody getting wasted out of their minds. That’s absolutely the worst environment for an alcoholic to find themselves in. But I can’t turn that gig down, even though my own health is endangered by my participation?

Or I’m a photographer, and potential clients want me to take the pics at their next weekend orgy. I don’t have the option to refuse?

These are all perfectly legal activities, so does that make my participation mandatory, even though in one case my physical and mental health is endangered, and in the other my morality is violated?

Though these may sound like extreme and fairly preposterous scenarios, they actually accurately represent the real issue in play in these “gay rights” cases. Just because the reason in the actual cases is based on religion doesn’t make it any less valid.

We really have entered the era of the gaystapo, and it’s time it comes to a screeching halt.



 ©Brian Baker 2015

75 comments on “Lemme Have A Thin Crust Cheese And Pepperoni, With Extra Hypocrisy And Mendacity, Please

  1. Hardnox says:

    Excellent essay Brian.

    Listening to Mark Levin last week, he opined that the heavy hand of government regulation and mandatory compulsion to provide services against one’s will or belief system was the same as “involuntary servitude” or slavery as the left likes to call it.

    We all know the article on Memories Pizza was hit a hit piece for a number of reasons. First, who orders pizza at a wedding? Two, why didn’t they ask a muslim caterer or restaurant owner the same question? Three, why not ask a gay caterer to provide services to a biker event? I could go on…

    The whole thing was a bullshit piece that the left has used to bash the right. As usual the R’s fell over themselves apologizing and then rewriting their laws even though 20 states have almost identical laws with half of them being blue states.

    The R’s get caught flat-footed every time instead of saying “STFU, Adults are in charge here”.

    The laws in Indiana and Arkansas were written to provide ANYONE a venue to have their day in court IF their religious rights may have been violated. Nothing else. There is no codified discrimination written into any of the laws as the left would have everyone believe.

    It still amazes me that less than 2% of our population has sway over the other 98%.

    It’s bullshit.

    … and you are right. These laws were advertised as having no effect on the rest of us but we all knew differently in advance, didn’t we? Now there’s homo this and homo that on every damned network. I’m sick of it.

    • BrianR says:

      Thanks, Nox. Obviously we fully agree on this. As you said, where’s the equivalent piece on ordering these cakes at Muslim bakeries, such as you guys ran as one of the pieces at your own site, N&F?

      I really like Levin, and sadly I can’t get him here anymore. The station that used to host his program took him off and stuck on some lightweight instead. Very disappointing.

      Thanks for that very thoughtful comment, my friend.

      • Nee says:

        Bri…I’ve been all over this. Sadly, people don’t understand that it’s not about civil rights, it’s not about equality but it is about Religious Freedom which our country was founded on, Period. Atheists don’t have to say God in the pledge and it’s not enough, they want it removed. They will continue to shove their beliefs down our throats without a thought to what you or I must sacrifice in that vein. As Martin said…pretty soon, you’ll be asked to witness the orgy and if you close your eyes, you’ll be handcuffed and dragged to jail. #tolerance!

        Five years ago, we bought a T-shirt with the Tea Party emergence. “Think. It’s not illegal. Yet.”

        For the life of me, I don’t understand why they don’t just move on to a business who will give them what they want. I donated to Memories and Baronelle Stutzman, the florist in WA. She served the gay person for years– who is now suing her for “discrimination” and eff her religion.
        The money raised for the Pizza business is going to become a non-profit to help others. So is the Stutzman money…that is a cause I can get behind. No money to any political pacs or candidates.

      • BrianR says:

        Good for you, Nee, for stepping up!

    • Nee says:

      Hardnox…Stephen Crowder did the Muslim bakery thing and pretended to be a gay man. His audio was messed up and he never published it, until this. And the Muslims would not do it and referred him to other stores in Detroit, no less!! Type in his name for the link, it was in the last 4 days…Maybe THe Blaze had it…

  2. Grey Neely says:

    Brian, there have already been attempts at ordering “wedding cakes” at muslim bakeries by Conservatives posing as “gays”. The muslim bakeries refused. But the lame stream media REFUSES to report on this (the videos are on the web).

    And we all know that the GOP will not really comment or take any action.

    I have said before I will no longer vote for ANY Democrat. And it now appears that I also cannot vote for an incumbent Republican. My choices during an election are getting fewer and fewer.

    As to the future actions by the American citizens? I am positively scared to death that either the US will become a “Banana” Republic (or South/Latin American style dictatorship) or a “tipping” point will be reached and a revolution will commence. My closet living friend (who I have known for over 58 years) is convinced that the former will be the end result. Frankly, I don’t have a clue.

    The only good thing to come out of the whole Memories Pizza incident is the FACT that over $800,000. was raised in a small period of time to help the pizza company. The Gay Gestapo tried to raise money to help the gays who started this “Pizza War”. Yesterday, they had only raised about $500.00.

    In other words, the majority of America is on the side of the pizza company, not the gays. That at least gives me some room to hope.

  3. Gil M says:

    Brian, you’re on to something about the lies that were told that gay marriage wouldn’t affect anyone else. We’re seeing that happening right in front of our eyes and sadly, it’s just the beginning. People laughed and scorned when we said this was opening the door to a slippery slope but now we’re seeing the truth. Last week Frank Bruni of the New York Times suggested that churches must take homosexuality off their list of sins. I can see it coming when churches will lose their tax status if they speak out against homosexuality as clearly taught in the Bible.

    Thankfully, there were a ton of normal people who responded to Memories Pizza. Last I heard over $800,000 had been raised!

    • BrianR says:

      Yep, Gil, the people really HAVE “spoken” up for the Memories Pizza folks. Very gratifying.

      I also agree that the churches are under siege on this issue, and that’s VERY problematic, IMO. The lefties really are playing with fire there; I do NOT think they want to awaken that dragon.

  4. gunnyginalaska says:

    Good Essay. I sent some bucks to the Go Fund for these folks and was happy to see it hit almost 900K! THAT is a slap in the face to the “gaystapo!” Kudos.

  5. clyde says:

    Take a bow, brother. My middle daughter is a lesbian, we have had MANY heated discussions about the LBGT community FORCING the rest of us to ” accept” them. When I laid out the case that NO ONE likes to be forced into accepting anything different from themselves, and that if the gay community wanted acceptance they would have to EARN it. Excellent post.

    • BrianR says:

      Thank you, kind sir. I really appreciate the props, Clyde. I’m truly sorry that this issue has caused divisiveness between you and your little girl.

      I know I’d hate to have that happen with mine.

  6. captbogus2 says:

    This may go on for some time. I believe the boiling point will come when some Christian business owner refuses to obey the court order to bake a cake or take pictures or cater some pizza to a homosexual quasi-moral affair and is sent to jail for contempt.
    THAT, I believe, is what it will take for the country to wake up to the imminent threat facing our freedom of religion.

    • BrianR says:

      Well, we’re already basically there, as there are business owners who’ve been slammed with civil penalties.

  7. captbogus2 says:

    I don’t think monetary fines would have the impact on the people that would actual imprisonment.

    • BrianR says:

      Well, these are civil “violations”, and as such confinement in jail or prison don’t apply, I think.

  8. captbogus2 says:

    Contempt of court carries jail time, doesn’t it?

    • BrianR says:

      It can and usually does. But I don’t see these cases reaching that point, because once they lose in court, none of them have taken it in that direction.

      Some have simply gone out of business. Others have raised other funding to pay fines.

  9. cyn3wulf says:

    Another great essay, Brian. I miss the old Townhall days.

    Anyway, still waiting for when inclusion of this becomes mandatory in elementary school text books. If they are allowed to cross over every line in the sand without penalty, it’s just a question of when, not if.

    Republicans are the Right’s Charlie Brown kicking the football set by the Left’s Lucy.

    And the Left does this with everything: What are you whining about? We just want X. X won’t affect you in any way. We would never think of moving onto Y if you give us X. Scout’s Honor. So stop being an out-of-touch, uptight bumpkin and get with the times.

    Republicans gather in a huddle, whispering to each other. Er, um, I suppose we could possibly allow X if…

    Y! Nothing less than Y will satisfy us (and now that you idiots have broken the seal on the bottle, you’ll be forced to pour it, thank you very much, and I’ll have mine over ice with an umbrella in it, now step to it!)

    And on it goes. In this case, you’ll recall this started when conservatives, after arguing about it a bit, decided they could live with civil unions. The very second the Right agreed to civil unions, the Left took them off the table and demanded more. The Left isn’t interested in reasonable solutions other than as an inch-long stepping stone to take their mile or as clubs for beating you over the head.

    • BrianR says:

      Cyanawulf? Is that really you????

      Where the HELL have you been for all these years?

      • cyn3wulf says:

        Indeed it is. As far as I can tell, I was here 2.5 years ago, give or take. Doesn’t seem that long to me, but I do tend to underestimate the flow of time. Anyway, I’ve spent much of my free reading/commenting time on various educational sites. I may well be in the minority here, but most for most of the battle, I’ve been fighting my own team. Republicans have education completely wrong. Completely. And through that still ongoing battle, I’ve come to be quite disillusioned with our political class. I’ve come to the conclusion that our representatives don’t represent the people. They don’t serve the people. They represent and serve money.

        In any event, I have it set up so I get an email now when you post something, so I’m hoping to be a more frequent visitor from now on.

      • BrianR says:

        Yeah, I remember your quick in and out back then, never to be seen again until now. I hope to see more of you as time goes on.

        No, there’s no way you’re “in the minority here”. Most if not all of the regulars are also constitutionalists, not GOP drones. Many, like me, aren’t GOPers anymore, because — to paraphrase Reagan — that party left us.

        Even those who are still GOPers are very vocal in their opposition to the RINOs and Establishment GOP. I suspect my blog doesn’t have much appeal for the “pull that GOP lever no matter what” crowd, because I spend almost as much time criticizing the GOP hacks as I do the Dem/socialists when my essay is about party politics.

        Some of us are the old “Crispies” from back in the TH days, if you remember that. Clyde, Nee, Buck, Hardnox, GunnyG, just to name a few off the top of my head. You’ll see them drop in from time to time and comment.

        Anyway, good to see you. Stay tuned. Comment at will!

      • Nee says:

        That’s what I was thinkin’ Brian!! Whoop!

  10. CW says:

    Great post, Brian.

    People tend to mistakenly believe that liberalism is about ideology or philosophy when really it’s all about ego and personality. Inside each liberal/leftist, no matter their size, lurks a big, brooding, schoolyard bully who takes great satisfaction from forcing others to bow to his will. It’s not enough for the Left that they can legally engage in behaviors that others disapprove of. They demand that no one must be allowed to pass judgment on them as well, either by censoring critics with bully tactics (media campaigns, boycotts, etc.) or by taking away the peoples’ right to free association.

    As I suggested on another post, conservative organizations should make a point of seeking out gay businesses when they need services to promote conservative events. Get James O’Keefe to go undercover to hire gay-owned businesses to cater, photograph or promote ‘The Conservative Forum for Traditional Values,’ or ‘The Take Back Marriage Symposium,’ etc., and let’s see what happens. The blatant hypocrisy would reveal what phonies the Left are when it comes to their supposed indignation over discrimination. They’re all just a bunch of liars who want to be held to a different standard of behavior than everyone else.

    • BrianR says:

      Well said, CW. I couldn’t agree more.

      Of course, the lamestream press wouldn’t ever report those examples of hypocrisy, but that’s okay, because we have our own outlets: Fox News, THE most popular 24-hour news outlet; talk radio; townhall.com; etc.

  11. Nee says:

    Grr…Commentingatwill (CAW)…Dear HRC: AYFKM? You flew coach, AND carried your own luggage? WOW. Way to be real. How long do you think the media is going to protect you on the tough questions?
    Remember what my Grampa said: Sooner or later, the spider is caught in his own web of lies and destroys himself. Can I just say that it cannot happen soon enough? #toxic #liar

  12. captbogus2 says:

    35 and holding………?

  13. Nee says:

    Dear Pied Piper and friends: Please tell me what restraint in Baltimore accomplishes as the Mayor of a mostly black town allows for “room to destroy” in the name of free speech? Where the F$% are Al and Jesse, now? Sitting back blaming white people…just guessing. The people are fed up with what? Pretending they deserve more from the mostly black police force? Pretending that the drugs and trash in their ‘n’hoods isn’t of their own making? Nope. Try again.
    It’s because all the black people they elected are screwing them and they are too stupid to realize it, so they think rioting in the streets in the name of a dead man and destroying businesses is gonna get it done. We see how that worked in Detroit, LA, Ferguson, right? #SOS #FYPiedPiper

    • BrianR says:

      Yeah, Nee, it’s a pretty sad state of affairs. I keep asking the question: when was the last time we saw white people riot like this?

      It’s not “racism” when it’s true.

      • Nee says:

        I said the same thing…They keep blaming white people but where do you see that? The black population just keeps falling prey to lies and owns nothing because the likes of Al, Jesse, and Barack tell them to blame us. Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams have it right…the nuclear family and the lack of it, is keeping many from living successful lives and until that changes, nothing else will. With no skin in the game, everything remains the same.

      • BrianR says:


        It’s essentially a collapse of the social order within segments of that “community”, and when there’s no social order you end up with anarchy.

  14. captbogus2 says:

    Kinda makes you understand why there used to be a poll tax, doesn’t it.

  15. captbogus2 says:

    Had that, too, at one time in Texas…

  16. Nee says:

    Dear Stacey Petton at the WAPO…Shut yer trap. You’re no better than Al Sharpton or Jesse J. with the tripe you’re publishing. As a black woman, you should be ashamed. It does matter how ALL children behave. And it matters that they learn what is right and what is good…How you can even think that that it only applies to blacks and say it with a straight face is beyond comprehension.
    When people learn to act non-criminally and to think for themselves instead of being a collective as is seen in the inner cities, perhaps perception will change. But as long as people like you continue to blame white supremacy, or anyone for the actions that we continue to see…things remain the same. #anothershillforJesseAlBarack #SOS

  17. Nee says:

    Dear Billy Jeff: I don’t know about you, but remember how all the liberals kicked and screamed about Dick Cheney being so evil and how he was making money off of Haliburton, yada, yada, yada? C’mon. You do.

    Well, *I* also remember that there was no conflict of interest because Cheney no longer worked for Haliburton, and he didn’t have to give up his retirement benefits…and no, they weren’t favored bidders. But they were the only outfit at the time who could do what they did…Yeah, that.

    Well, Willie. It seems that HRC’s State Dept. are the ones who were showing favoritism, no? Because look how much money you made, you weaselly MF. 50 million dollars and not one person waves the red flag to say “Whoa!!!”?

    #TEFLONISNOTFOREVER #Graybarmotelnextstop #Ifonly

  18. captbogus2 says:

    Oh, yeah and remember how all the liberals kicked and screamed about LBJ making money off Brown & Root?
    Nah, me neither.

  19. It continues because people are too damn afraid to push back AND the courts are corrupt.

  20. captbogus2 says:

    A method has to be found AND USED to remove judges from the bench who refuse to uphold their oath to the Constitution, do not follow the Constitution and legislate from the bench. Lifetime appointments to any office in the republic are reminiscent of monarchy.

    • BrianR says:

      Yeah, it’s very problematic. Jefferson called the judiciary “the most dangerous branch”. The problem is, it would take a constitutional amendment.

    • BrianR says:

      Let me qualify that. The Constitution requires lifetime appointments for justices on the Supreme Court, not all federal judges. So legislatively, lower court judges could have their terms limited.

      States have their own rules for judicial appointments. Here in Commiefornia, they have to be elected, and even upper court judges appointed by the governor have to be re-approved periodically by the electorate.

  21. captbogus2 says:

    Okay but there should be a method of impeachment, trial and removal. The problem, as I see it, is the SCOTUS judges, once appointed, assume the mantle of final word and authority on Constitutional questions. I’m sure this was what worried Jefferson. Just as the Queen of Hearts says, “Words mean exactly what I want them to mean. No more, no less.” so, too do the 9 justices say the same thing regarding the Constitution. Once appointed, they are elevated to immaculate thinking. And for reasons many suspect but cannot know they reverse their heretofore conservative philosophies in favor of statist ideas.
    It is funny (ha ha) but true the liberal appointees never change their views to conservative but on the other hand think John Roberts. Think Sandra O’Conner…

    • BrianR says:

      Well, I have to correct myself. I just re-read the Constitution in order to respond to what you wrote, and ALL federal judges have lifetime appointments.

      However, all federal judges, including SCOTUS, can be impeached, using the same process as used to impeach the President. But as you note, good luck on that.

      Yep, you’re right. Historically the Dem/socialist ones stay true to their ideology, while the “conservative” ones go all wobbly. Not only Roberts and O’Connor; think about Kennedy and Souter. Same deal.

      Fortunately, every once in a while we get some good ones, which right now are Alito, Scalia, and Thomas.

  22. captbogus2 says:

    Yeah. There’s no room for correction when a mistake is made in confirmation and there damn well should be!

  23. captbogus2 says:

    By the way just when did McCain become so enamored with ‘reaching across the aisle’ that he votes ‘yea’ on every damn presidential nominee? Couldn’t been back some time ago when relations were “normalized” with Viet Nam, could it? That would be a lot towards my theory the left is into blackmail. Just think of what they could have on him from his captors! And I’m sure “The Hanoi Songbird” would do/say/vote any way they ‘asked’ him to.

    • BrianR says:

      McCain’s been a Lefty since forever. That’s always been the biggest problem with that douchebag: he’s a Dem in GOP clothing.

      In fact, it’s literally true. When he was first going to enter politics — on his rich wife’s dime, by the way — he was a Dem. But his political advisors told him that he’d never get elected in Arizona as a Dem, so he registered as a GOPer.

  24. captbogus2 says:

    And Arizona was dumb enough to go for it…. and go for it…. and…

    • BrianR says:

      Maybe not this time. We’ll see…

      Too bad we can’t give him back to the North Vietnamese. But even THEY’RE not THAT stupid.

  25. ragnarsbhut says:

    Brian, I agree with you for the most part. Where I am of a different opinion is in the fact that same-sex marriage does not bother me personally.

    • BrianR says:

      Well, that’s fine, Ragnar, but that’s not what the column’s about.

      The column is about FORCING people to perform actions that violate their core beliefs. Fortunately, in the Masterpiece Bakery case SCOTUS agreed with me.

  26. ragnarsbhut says:

    Brian, what about public officials who refuse to uphold existing laws, such as Kim Davis? If she did not want to grant any marriage licenses to same-sex couples, she should have addressed her concerns and contacted the state representatives, not arbitrarily take the law into her own hands.

    • BrianR says:

      I couldn’t agree more. I made the same argument against Moonbeam Brown for refusing to defend Prop 8 in court, which banned same-sex “marriages” here in Commiefornia.

      If a public official won’t do their job, they should resign.

  27. ragnarsbhut says:

    Brian, I know that some people who oppose same-sex marriage may want to vote to not give the people in such a relationship legal recognition. However, since we all have the right to life, liberty, to pursue happiness, that should negate the arguing about the marriage issue.

    • BrianR says:

      Really? So, if my right to “pursue happiness” involves marrying my own mother, I can’t be refused?

  28. ragnarsbhut says:

    Brian, in a free society, no person has the right to impose their will upon another person.

    • BrianR says:

      We’ve discussed this before, Ragnar. What you’re claiming is impossible given human nature. EVERY society imposes its collective will on individuals to a greater or lesser extent.

      That’s just the way it is.

  29. ragnarsbhut says:

    Brian, your point about being able to marry your own mother seems to be exaggerated.

  30. ragnarsbhut says:

    Brian, it essentially boils down to matters of personal freedom. If any person is facing persecution because they want the freedom to marry a member of the same biological sex, I find that to be ridiculous. Some people may view marriage as being religious and sacred. That is their right. What no person has the right to do is violate the rights of other people.

    • BrianR says:

      Well, Ragnar, I think you’ve missed my point. Nobody in this country is being “persecuted” for wanting same-sex “marriage”. People are perfectly free to want whatever they want, with no consequences. This isn’t the Middle East, where gay people get thrown off rooftops for being gay. However, a society DOES have the right to define its own social contract, and those in the minority get to suck it up.

      I hate the fact that I can’t carry a concealed handgun here in SoCal, and gun ownership is an actual right secured by the Constitution. But I’m not “persecuted” in being denied that right; that’s just the way it is unless we can change the law. Same thing with smoking. I can’t smoke indoors. Does that mean I’m being “persecuted”? Nope.

      Again, “rights” are whatever an organized society determines they are. And nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything about same-sex “marriage” being a “right”.

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